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Visual Editor[edit source]

We need to get the editor on this wiki. It would help get people who are willing to contribute but are not that happy to do text edits. Mohau Talk 11:04, 27 Diphalane 2016 (SAST)[reply]

  • Visual Editor is available for Beta Testing... Mohau Talk 09:52, 2 Dibatsela 2016 (SAST)[reply]

Bošušumetša[edit source]

Anyone knows what Bošušumetša is? Mohau 18:33, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

I think we should remove it, have no idea what it is.

I cant help on that one but go sussumetsa is to force through pushing mostly to a heat concentrated environment. Is widely used when dry cattle dung (disu in N. Sotho) is forced underneath the 3-legged pot for fire. Futher more the BO as a prefix to the word makes it a place as per language structure. kgomo waKganakga (motlokwa yo mogolo,2010'02)

Motšhošetši is terrorist, so that might have been the intent. Boitumelo 17:49, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Thutaswika[edit source]

Any idea what this might be, Geology maybe? But then Geology includes liquids and it is not just the study of rocks. Boitumelo 19:24, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Thutaswika is definately Geology irrespective of what the study details. It should be noted that language has been in existance for a long time and our forefathers where not studing in fields like Geology. Kgomo waKganakga 2010'02

Question about geographical names[edit source]

Can anyone translate to Sepedi geographical names listed below? Aotearoa 08:21, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

  • Crocodile River
  • Bushveld
  • Veld
  • Murchison Range
  • Kruger National Park
  • Transvaal

Help Needed[edit source]

Century and Decade

I have changed the template on the dates artles to use Year Nav as attached on this page.

Ngwagakete: Ngwagakete 3
Mengwagakgolo: Ngwagakgolo 20Ngwagakgolo 21Ngwagakgolo 22
Mengwagasome: 1980s  1990s  2000s  – 2010s –  2020s  2030s  2040s
Mengwaga: 2007 2008 200920102011 2012 2013

Can anyone please add the missing articles to the project.

Thanks in Advance Mohau 13:24, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

  • Done Ngwagakete 1,2,3 and 4 Fahlaza 19:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

VisualEditor coming to this wiki[edit source]

Hello. Please excuse the English. I would be grateful if you can translate this message!

VisualEditor is coming to this project on December 2, 2013. VisualEditor is software in development to allow people to edit pages in MediaWiki without needing to learn wikitext syntax (like typing [[ to start a link). It is already available and in use on some Wikipedia projects. Please see mw:Help:VisualEditor/FAQ for more information.

When this software arrives, you will have the option to use it or to use the current wikitext editor. When you press “edit”, you will get the new VisualEditor software. To use the wikitext editor, you can press “edit source”. For more information about how to use VisualEditor, see mw:Help:VisualEditor/User guide.

We hope that this software will be useful to people in your community, and we can really use your help to make it better! Please let us know if you find any problems. If you're willing and able, please report the issue in bugzilla in the "VisualEditor" product. If you would prefer not, please explain the issue you found on the central feedback page on Once VisualEditor is made available, if there are any urgent problems, like an unexpected bug suddenly causing widespread severe problems, please e-mail James Forrester, the Product Manager, at for immediate attention.

We would also appreciate help with translation with the pages about VisualEditor here and on, and its user interface. To translate the user interface, start by creating an account at TranslateWiki. Once your account request is approved, all you need to do is select your language from this list. This will give you a list of individual lines and paragraphs. The English original will be on one side, with the option to “edit” on the other. Pressing “edit” will open an edit window where you can work.

The User Guide is another important document. To translate this, simply go to the page, and select “translate this page”. Your language should be available from the drop-down menu on the right. If you want to help with translations and would like to talk about how, please leave a message for me on my talk page.

Thank you, and happy editing! --PEarley (WMF) (talk) 21:44, 19 Dibatsela 2013 (SAST)[reply]

VisualEditor global newsletter—June 2014[edit source]

This is a one-time mailing to projects that may need this information. Future newsletters will be available as opt-in only. To receive future newsletters (about one per month), please add your page to the subscribers' list at m:VisualEditor/Newsletter. You're welcome to translate to your language.

The character formatting menu

Did you know?

The character formatting menu, or "Style text" menu lets you set bold, italic, and other text styles. "Clear formatting" removes all text styles and removes links to other pages.

Do you think that clear formatting should remove links? Are there changes you would like to see for this menu? Share your opinion at

The user guide has information about how to use VisualEditor.

The VisualEditor team is mostly working to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on weekly updates detailing recent work.

  • They have moved the "Keyboard shortcuts" link out of the "Page options" menu, into the "Help" menu. Within dialog boxes, buttons are now more accessible (via the Tab key) from the keyboard.
  • You can now see the target of the link when you click on it, without having to open the inspector.
  • The team also expanded TemplateData: You can now add a parameter type  "date" for dates and times in the ISO 8601 format, and  "boolean" for values which are true or false. Also, templates that redirect to other templates (like {{citeweb}}{{cite web}}) now get the TemplateData of their target (bug 50964). You can test TemplateData by editing mw:Template:Sandbox/doc.
  • Category: and File: pages now display their contents correctly after saving an edit (bug 65349, bug 64239)
  • They have also improved reference editing: You should no longer be able to add empty citations with VisualEditor (bug 64715), as with references. When you edit a reference, you can now empty it and click the "use an existing reference" button to replace it with another reference instead. 
  • It is now possible to edit inline images with VisualEditor. Remember that inline images cannot display captions, so existing captions get removed. Many other bugs related to images were also fixed.
  • You can now add and edit {{DISPLAYTITLE}} and __DISAMBIG__ in the "Page options" menu, rounding out the full set of page options currently planned.
  • The tool to insert special characters is now wider and simpler.

Looking ahead[edit source]

The VisualEditor team has posted a draft of their goals for the next fiscal year. You can read them and suggest changes on

The team posts details about planned work on VisualEditor's roadmap. You will soon be able to drag-and-drop text as well as images. If you drag an image to a new place, it won't let you place it in the middle of a paragraph. All dialog boxes and windows will be simplified based on user testing and feedback. The VisualEditor team plans to add autofill features for citations. Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted. Support for upright image sizes is being developed. The designers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments and adding rows and columns to tables.

Supporting your wiki[edit source]

Please read VisualEditor/Citation tool for information on configuring the new citation template menu, labeled "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽". This menu will not appear unless it has been configured on your wiki.

If you speak a language other than English, we need your help with translating the user guide. The guide is out of date or incomplete for many languages, and what's on your wiki may not be the most recent translation. Please contact us if you need help getting started with translation work on

VisualEditor can be made available to most non-Wikipedia projects. If your community would like to test VisualEditor, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.

Please share your questions, suggestions, or problems by posting a note at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on Saturday, 19 July 2014 at 21:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas and Pacific Islands) or on Thursday, 14 August 2014 at 9:00 UTC (daytime for Europe, Middle East, Asia).

If you'd like to get this newsletter on your own page (about once a month), please subscribe at Meta (or at w:en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter for English Wikipedia only). Thank you! --Elitre (WMF), 00:33, 26 Phupu 2014 (SAST)[reply]

Updates related to VisualEditor[edit source]

Please help translate this message in your language. Thanks :)

Hi, everybody. This is a reminder that we invite you to discuss VisualEditor's recent development and plans ahead during the next office hours with James Forrester (Product Manager):

If you are not able to attend but have a question for James, you can leave your question at or on my talk page by the day before, and I will try to get a response. We plan to continue these monthly sessions as long as there is community interest, and to announce them through the VisualEditor global newsletter as well (please subscribe your talk page there to get the latest news about the software).

Most of the VisualEditor team will be at Wikimania in London in August! You'll be able to meet the developers during the Hackaton or at the following sessions:

WMF community liaisons will share a booth with community advocates at the Community Village and look forward to talking to you there. Thanks for your attention! --User:Elitre (WMF) 18:02, 31 Mosegamanye 2014 (SAST)[reply]

VisualEditor global newsletter—July and August 2014[edit source]


The VisualEditor team is currently working mostly to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on weekly updates detailing recent work.

Screenshot of VisualEditor's link tool
Dialog boxes in VisualEditor have been re-designed to use action words instead of icons. This has increased the number of items that need to be translated. The user guide is also being updated.

The biggest visible change since the last newsletter was to the dialog boxes. The design for each dialog box and window was simplified. The most commonly needed buttons are now at the top. Based on user feedback, the buttons are now labeled with simple words (like "Cancel" or "Done") instead of potentially confusing icons (like "<" or "X"). Many of the buttons to edit links, images, and other items now also show the linked page, image name, or other useful information when you click on them.

  • Hidden HTML comments (notes visible to editors, but not to readers) can now be read, edited, inserted, and removed. A small icon (a white exclamation mark on a dot) marks the location of each comments. You can click on the icon to see the comment.
  • You can now drag and drop text and templates as well as images. A new placement line makes it much easier to see where you are dropping the item. Images can no longer be dropped into the middle of paragraphs.
  • All references and footnotes (<ref> tags) are now made through the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" menu, including the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" (manual formatting) footnotes and the ability to re-use an existing citation, both of which were previously accessible only through the "Insert" menu. The "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-referencelist-tooltip⧽" is still added via the "Insert" menu.
  • When you add an image or other media file, you are now prompted to add an image caption immediately. You can also replace an image whilst keeping the original caption and other settings.
  • All tablet users visiting the mobile web version of Wikipedias will be able to opt-in to a version of VisualEditor from 14 August. You can test the new tool by choosing the beta version of the mobile view in the Settings menu.
  • The link tool has a new "Open" button that will open a linked page in another tab so you can make sure a link is the right one.
  • The "Cancel" button in the toolbar has been removed based on user testing. To cancel any edit, you can leave the page by clicking the Read tab, the back button in your browser, or closing the browser window without saving your changes.

Looking ahead[edit source]

The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted. Support for upright image sizes is being developed. The designers are also working on support for adding rows and columns to tables. Work to support Internet Explorer is ongoing.

Feedback opportunities[edit source]

The Editing team will be making two presentations this weekend at Wikimania in London. The first is with product manager James Forrester and developer Trevor Parscal on Saturday at 16:30. The second is with developers Roan Kattouw and Trevor Parscal on Sunday at 12:30. There is a VisualEditor Translation Sprint going on during Wikimania; whether you're in London or not, any contributions are welcome!

Please share your questions, suggestions, or problems by posting a note at the VisualEditor feedback page or by joining the office hours discussion on Thursday, 14 August 2014 at 09:00 UTC (daytime for Europe, Middle East and Asia) or on Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 16:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas; evening for Europe).

If you'd like to get this newsletter on your own page (about once a month), please subscribe at w:en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at Meta for any project. Thank you! --Elitre (WMF), 16:40, 9 Phato 2014 (SAST)[reply]

VisualEditor News #8—2014[edit source]

11:49, 13 Diphalane 2014 (SAST)

VisualEditor News #9—2014[edit source]

01:29, 15 Dibatsela 2014 (SAST)

VisualEditor News #10—2014[edit source]

20:59, 26 Manthole 2014 (SAST)

VisualEditor News #1—2015[edit source]

20:30, 5 Dibokwane 2015 (SAST)

VisualEditor News #2—2015[edit source]

21:48, 10 Moranang 2015 (SAST)

VisualEditor News #3—2015[edit source]

12:44, 13 Phupu 2015 (SAST)

VisualEditor News #4—2015[edit source]

Elitre (WMF), 00:28, 15 Phato 2015 (SAST)[reply]

VisualEditor News #5—2015[edit source]

Elitre (WMF), 20:17, 30 Diphalane 2015 (SAST)[reply]

VisualEditor News #6—2015[edit source]

Elitre (WMF), 02:06, 25 Manthole 2015 (SAST)[reply]

VisualEditor News #1—2016[edit source]

Elitre (WMF), 22:22, 26 Dibokwane 2016 (SAST)[reply]

Editing News #2—2016[edit source]

m:User:Elitre (WMF), 19:20, 3 Mosegamanye 2016 (SAST)[reply]

Editing News #3—2016[edit source]

19:49, 15 Diphalane 2016 (SAST)

Editing News #1—2017[edit source]

20:05, 12 Mopitlo 2017 (SAST)

Editing News #1—2018[edit source]

22:56, 2 Hlakola 2018 (SAST)

Editing News #2—2018[edit source]

16:17, 2 Dibatsela 2018 (SAST)

Editing News #1—July 2019[edit source]

20:32, 23 Mosegamanye 2019 (SAST)

Editing News #2 – Mobile editing and talk pages[edit source]

13:12, 29 Diphalane 2019 (SAST)

Editing news 2020 #1 – Discussion tools[edit source]

21:25, 8 Moranang 2020 (SAST)

Editing news 2020 #2[edit source]

22:33, 17 Phupu 2020 (SAST)

Editing news 2020 #3[edit source]

14:55, 9 Mosegamanye 2020 (SAST)

Sepedi[edit source]

Poledisano Chezzy K (talk) 07:33, 14 Diphalane 2020 (SAST)[reply]

Translation of "Free Encyclopedia"[edit source]


The current logo of Wikipedia in your language says "Ensaeklopidia ya mahala". Is this a good translation of "The Free Encyclopedia"?

The word "Free" is supposed to be in the sense of "liberated", "not constrained", "unfettered". More like "free country" or "free people", and not like "given without paying money".

In the Oxford English - Northern Sotho Dictionary I can find these words as translations of free: lokologile, ntle le tefo, sesolo, go se be. Looking at the examples, the most appropriate word for me appears to be "lokologile".

I cannot find the word "mahala" in this dictionary at all.

What do you think? Given this information, do you still think that "Ensaeklopidia ya mahala" is a good translation for "The Free Encyclopedia", or should it perhaps be changed with the word "lokologile", or some other Northern Sotho word?


Tagging hopefully relevant people: User:Mohau, User:Aliwal2012, User:Thuvack. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 10:13, 11 Manthole 2020 (SAST)[reply]

Hello Amir! I took note of your question above, but don't have an answer for you at the moment, sorry. You are correct in your argument about what "Free Encyclopedia" should mean. Regards, Aliwal2012 (talk) 10:30, 11 Manthole 2020 (SAST)[reply]

Wikimania 2021: Individual Program Submissions[edit source]

Wikimania logo with text 2.svg

Dear all,

Wikimania 2021 will be hosted virtually for the first time in the event's 15-year history. Since there is no in-person host, the event is being organized by a diverse group of Wikimedia volunteers that form the Core Organizing Team (COT) for Wikimania 2021.

Event Program - Individuals or a group of individuals can submit their session proposals to be a part of the program. There will be translation support for sessions provided in a number of languages. See more information here.

Below are some links to guide you through;

Please note that the deadline for submission is 18th June 2021.

Announcements- To keep up to date with the developments around Wikimania, the COT sends out weekly updates. You can view them in the Announcement section here.

Office Hour - If you are left with questions, the COT will be hosting some office hours (in multiple languages), in multiple time-zones, to answer any programming questions that you might have. Details can be found here.

Best regards,

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:18, 16 Phupu 2021 (SAST)[reply]

On behalf of Wikimania 2021 Core Organizing Team

Editing news 2021 #2[edit source]

16:14, 24 Phupu 2021 (SAST)